Showing posts with label The Bible. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Bible. Show all posts

Monday, July 18, 2011

The Church/World Wrong?

The Earth is Flat

The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church” Ferdinand Magellan

The Earth is the Center of the Universe and the Sun rotates around the Earth Galileo Galilei - believed that the Earth rotated around the Sun. The entire world...all of the experts felt that the Earth was the center of the universe. From Wikipedia:

In February 1616, although he had been cleared of any offence, the Catholic Church nevertheless condemned heliocentrism as "false and contrary to Scripture", and Galileo was warned to abandon his support for it—which he promised to do. When he later defended his views in his most famous work, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, published in 1632, he was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy", forced to recant, and spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

The Bible says that Homosexuality is an Abomination

What the Bible says is an abomination is the unholy practice and cult ritual of a man depositing his sperm in the body of the High Priest during idol worship. The Bible never condemns a loving, monogamous, same sex relationship.

The Bible Says - Marriage

The Bible Says - Homosexuality

The Favorite Sin of the Conservatives

Does God REALLY Hate Homosexuals?

It is Against My Religion

Can You Justify Discrimination because of Sin?

Ruth and Naomi

Jesus, the Greatest Commandment and Homosexuality

Does God REALLY Hate Homosexuals?

All of the above links are previous entries from my blog. They contain a great deal of research and compelling evidence that The Almighty God does not condemn a monogamous same sex relationship. I would be more than happy to discuss or debate my research in a respectful manner. Please feel free to comment or email.

The Salem Witch Trials

From Wikipedia

The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings before county court trials to prosecute people accused of witchcraft in the counties of Essex, Suffolk, and Middlesex in colonial Massachusetts, between February 1692 and May 1693. Despite being generally known as the Salem witch trials, the preliminary hearings in 1692 were conducted in a variety of towns across the province: Salem Village (now Danvers), Ipswich, Andover and Salem Town.

The best-known trials were conducted by the Court of Oyer and Terminer in 1692 in Salem Town. Over 150 people were arrested and imprisoned, with even more accused but not formally pursued by the authorities. All twenty-six who went to trial before this court were convicted. The four sessions of the Superior Court of Judicature in 1693, held in Salem Village, but also in Ipswich, Boston and Charlestown, produced only three convictions in the thirty-one witchcraft trials it conducted. The two courts convicted twenty-nine people of the capital felony of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused, fourteen women and five men, were executed by hanging.[1] One man, Giles Corey, refused to enter a plea and was crushed to death under heavy stones in an attempt to force him to do so. At least five more of the accused died in prison.

The episode is one of the most famous cases of mass hysteria, and has been used in political rhetoric and popular literature as a vivid cautionary tale about the dangers of isolationism, religious extremism, false accusations, lapses in due process, and local governmental intrusion on individual liberties

Monday, April 18, 2011

Can You Justify Discrimnation Because of Sin?

This last week, God sent an email out to all the sinless Holy people..... did you get one? Neither did I.

I have been told over and over again that the reason why the "Religious Right" are against Same Sex Marriage, is because it is a sin. Whereas I have said numerous times in previous posts that Bible research does not support this,

(http://binationalcouples.blogspot.com/2011/03/bible-says-homosexuality.html)

(http://binationalcouples.blogspot.com/2011/03/ruth-and-naomi.html)

(http://binationalcouples.blogspot.com/2011/02/jesus-greatest-commandments-and.html)

(http://binationalcouples.blogspot.com/2011/01/what-other-abominations-should-we.html)

(http://binationalcouples.blogspot.com/2011/01/does-god-really-hate-homosexuals.html)

(http://binationalcouples.blogspot.com/2010/12/favorite-sin-of-conseratives.html)

(http://binationalcouples.blogspot.com/2010/12/i-have-family-values-ohand-im-gay.html)

I wish to indulge those who still believe that homosexuality is a sin and ask them the following: Why do you take such a strong stance against homosexuality and not against the abominations that the Bible names?

The Bible talks a lot about adultery, yet, Newt Gingrich can make a serious run for the Presidency. The Bible talks about a "Proud Look" being an abomination, yet, Donald Trump can make the news about his thoughts on running for the Presidency. No one makes mention of other sins. No one seems to care that the Bible clearly states that "all Liars shall find their place in the Lake of Fire".

The Bible also has the 10 Commandments. How many of those get broken on a daily basis by taking the Lords name in vain, by not attending church, by lusting in our hearts, by lying and disrespect. I think that the Lord Jesus Christ said it best when He said, "Why do you care about the speck of dust in your brother's eye, when you have a huge beam in your own eye..."

Why would you discriminate against Lesbians and Gays because you feel it is a sin, when you are nothing but a sinner yourself? "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"

One other arguement that seems to be making it's rounds is that same sex couples cannot have children. This is simply not true. Without using an expensive fertility clinic, my spouse and I got pregnant at home without a man present...just his sperm. I even wrote an eBook on it called Artificial Insemination on a Budget. We actually have two sons who are full siblings, as we were able to use the same sperm donor twice. So another arguement is rendered useless. Love is the greatest power that is known to man. The Bible says that "God is Love". To try and stop love is futile and love will triumph.

Pass the Uniting American Families Act and the Respect for Marriage Act. Just because something is a tradition, doesn't mean it is always the right thing to do. Some times rules are meant to be broken, sometimes traditions must be changed and make new traditions.

Wednesday, March 16, 2011

The Bible Says - Homosexuality

Homosexuality

What does the Bible Say?

Each and Every Verse the Text and the Context

The Culture and the History of the Time

(There are only six by the way)

 

Let's start with the big one:  Leviticus 18:22    Do not lie with men as you would with women.

Leviticus 20:13     If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood be upon them

In order to understand these verses, one must understand the culture of the time.  In reading the entire chapters, we are told three different times that they were being forbidden to live as the Egyptians and the Canaanites.  Biblical historians will tell you that the Cannanite religion during this time also included sexual rites.  These were done to ask for the blessings of their god.  These sexual rites included whole families; Husbands, wives, cousins, mothers, daughters, nieces and nephews.  Also included in the rites were temple prostitutes.  Every kind of sexual practice was going on when worshiping these gods during this time including homosexual sex.  They felt that having physical contact with the priests of the gods and goddesses would bring them blessings.  Sexual intercourse was felt to gain great favor of the goddess because the male was offering his semen, thought to be the essence of life, to the goddess through the priest.  Depositing semen in the body of the priest was believed to be the way to eternal life.  Similar practices went on during this time in history through out the religion in worship of pagan deities.This is what was going on in Canaan and Egypt at the time the Levitical rules were announced --homosexual temple prostitution. And as already noted, Leviticus 18 and 20 specifically say that they were written to address pagan religious practices.

Leviticus 18 begins (18:3)  You shall not do as they do in the land of Egypt, where you lived, and you shall not do as they do in the land of Canaan where I am bringing you...

Leviticus 20 is even more specific even naming the pagan god Molech. 

So these verses which are quoted so often in condemnation of homosexuality, are actually in condemnation of idol, false god pagan practices.

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Sodom and Gomorah in Genesis 19 

For years, this has been used by people to condemn homosexuality.  Let's look at the story a little more closely.  The Bible says that all the men of the city every single one of them both young and old came to Lot's house.  This is very telling.  The most "gay" city in the United States is arguably San Fransisco.  Yet, in this very "gay" city, less than half of the men are gay.  It stands to reason that if the Bible was talking about homosexuals, perhaps it would have been worded that "certain men of the city" or even "many men of Sodom".  It is not.  It says that every single one of the men and boys .... all of them to the very last man came to Lot's house.  To suggest that every single man in Sodom and Gomorrah was a homosexual is simply not credible.  From where did the children come if this was so.  I believe that something other than homosexual desire was going on here.  This is further proved accurate by Lot himself.  He offers his daughters, his virgin daughters to the men of Sodom and Gomorrah.  If these men were truly homosexual, what was Lot trying to accomplish here.  Lot knew the men at his door and knew them to be predominately heterosexual (his actions are reprehensible) which is why he offered his daughters. 

From ancient records, we know that at the time, the practice of the people of Sodom and of all the people of the area was to use rape of men by men to humiliate them.  "When victorious soldiers wanted to break the spirit of their defeated enemies, they would 'treat them like women'".  This is a story of mob violence, not of homosexual desire. 

So if homosexuality was not the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah, what was it that caused God to rain fire and brimstone.  Well, once again, the Bible has the answers to this.  The Bible itself tells us that it was not homosexuality that caused God to destroy these two cities.  The Bible mentions Sodom and Gomorrah twenty times in later scriptures and NONE of them states that their sin was homosexuality.   In the book of Ezekiel we find probably the most extensive references to Sodom and Gomorrah.  Ezekiel 16:49 & 50  This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.  They were haughty and did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.

According to the Old Testament prophets, the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was the fact that they behaved with "callous indifference" to those in need-- the widows, orphans, poor and the strangers in their midst.  In truth, this story is at best a condemnation of homosexual rape; and as other Scriptures affirm, it is more generally a condemnation of the mistreatment of those who are most vulnerable ....  It is ironic that the story of Sodom is now used by Christians to justify judgement toward another vulnerable group -- homosexuals. [excerpt from The Children are Free by Rev. Jeff Miner and John Tyler Connoley]

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Romans 1:21-28

(King James Version)

 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

 23And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.

 24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:

 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

 28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

 

The apostle Paul is addressing the Roman people.  All accounts of this passage that I have studied (and there were a lot) agree on one thing.  Paul is talking to these people about idol worship.  God gives them over to their idol worship and the practice of homosexual relations in said pagan rituals.  That each of them agree upon.

 

1:24-25 The expression God gave them (parevdwken aujtouV" oJ qeov", paredoken autous ho theos) over means that the process envisioned in 1:18-32 is not simply the natural course of events but an ongoing history directed by a sovereign God who makes decisions which affect people, societies, and cultures. The thought is truly a frightful one. It is reminiscent of Pharaoh turning his back on God and in turn having his heart judicially hardened by YHWH (Exod 9:16; cf. Rom 9:17).

Though there is no mention of fire and brimstone at this point in Romans, there is a process underway that is not altogether distinct from hell. If people really want their sinful lifestyles, then the awesome reality is God will give them over to it. As C. S. Lewis as aptly remarked, “There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, ‘Thy will be done.’ All that are in hell chose it.” The point is, that although Paul is not talking about hell here, and indeed there is still hope for these people, there is nonetheless a continuum between their present existence and their future plight. If a person really wants God out of their thoughts, as these people most definitely do, Love has decided to provide a place in the end where they can choose to go and never have to think about him again.

There comes a time in the divine mind when people, who revel in the sinful desires of their hearts, are to be handed over to their desire for impurity, in particular, to the dishonoring (tou` ajtimavzesqai) of their bodies with one another. One should not miss the ideological connection here between the Gentiles’ idolatry and sexual sin—a connection which was commonly made in the Judaism of Paul’s day.

Wisdom of Solomon 14:12-14 reads: 12For the idea of making idols was the beginning of fornication, and the invention of them was the corruption of life; 13 for they did not exist from the beginning, nor will they last forever. 14 For through human vanity they entered the world, and therefore their speedy end has been planned (NRSV).

Though there is no explicit grammatical tie with verse 24, verse 25 makes it clear that sexual perversion is closely linked with idolatry. People have exchanged (methvllaxan, metellaxan) the truth about God’s existence and glory for the lie that he neither exists nor merits worship. Indeed, the irony of the whole thing is that they give religious worship and service to this lie (tw/` yeuvdei, to pseudei) when they give themselves to idolatry—the worship of the creation rather than the Creator. For idolatry is not just the worship of useless idols, it is the express proclamation that the biblical God does not exist. Such a thought is so abhorrent to Paul that he finds it necessary to invoke a blessing on God: “God is forever blessed!”

 

 

The Apostle Paul was a very educated man.  He addressed the facts of the time in a very logical and throughal progression.

1.  In verse 21 he addresses People who refuse to acknowledge and glorify God

2.  In verse 23, they were worshipping idols

3  They were interested in earthly things rather than the things of the Creator (verse 25)

4.  Gave up natural passion for the opposite sex in an "unbounded search for pleasure"

5.  Lived lives full of covetousness, malice, envy, strife, slander, disrespect for parents, pride and hatred for God

The model of homosexual behavior that Paul is addressing here is explicitly associated with idol worship (probably temple prostitution), and with people who, in unbridled search for pleasure (or because of religious rituals associated with their idolatry), broke away from their natural sexual orientation, participating in promiscuous sex with anyone available.   Paul simply does not address the issue of a stable, loving homosexual relationship among people of faith.

[exerpt from The Children are Free by Rev. Jeff Miner and John Tyler Connoley]

 

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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and I Timothy 1:10 (King James Version)

 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1:10 (King James Version)

 10For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;