Showing posts with label The Bible and same sex marriage. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Bible and same sex marriage. Show all posts

Tuesday, October 4, 2011

The Sin of Promoting ‘Traditional Marriage’

Why do so many people misunderstand the Bible and the verses regarding homosexuality and same sex relationships?

Well, quite frankly, people don't have a vested interest in proving what centuries of people have said to be true...to prove them wrong. It wasn't until gay and lesbian theologians and their friends were able to step out of the closet and practice as open and affirming people, that these passages were looked into more deeply and with much greater interest. Thanks to efforts of these people we have a better understanding of the precise meaning of these passages. The good news of the Bible is still for all because none of these passages condemn a loving same sex relationship.

Faith in America

We also know that gay and lesbian couples uphold those same characteristics for their unions. Why would they not? Why would a parent of a gay son or daughter not want their child to enjoy the happiness derived from a lifelong devotion to those characteristics? Why would a brother or sister with a gay sibling not want their brother or sister to enjoy the happiness derived from a lifelong devotion to those characteristics?

Why would a person of faith not want the gay or lesbian individual to enjoy the happiness derived from the pursuit of marriage sanctity?

Why would we as Americans not want our government and its laws to recognize that same marriage sanctity for gay and lesbian individuals in their pursuit of liberty and happiness?

There can be only one reason and that is because many of us have been conditioned by years of misguided church teaching to look upon gay and lesbian individuals as morally inferior, unworthy and therefore undeserving of that which which we uphold as good and sanctified in our lives.

The use of the term “traditional marriage” embeds in our minds and hearts a moral and religious stamp of disapproval on gay and lesbian individuals and that brings immense harm to their lives, their happiness and their well-being.

Faith In America therefore believes the use of the term “traditional marriage” is without question morally unacceptable and equally sinful in the religious context.

Sunday, August 14, 2011

It's Not Really Possible to Kiss While Crying

 

 

I am a woman born in the United States of America.

I am a woman born in the United States of America, raised by extremely conservative parents. Republican....John Birch Society.

I am a Conservative, Independent Fundamental Baptist, Born Again Christian Woman, born in the United States of America.

I am a Republican, Conservative, right winged Woman born in the United States of America, so conservative that I think that Jerry Falwell is a liberal.

I am a Woman falling in love............Dear God in Heaven, I need your guidance.......born in the United States............................

I am a Woman in love ..... in love....deeply in love...........with ...... with........I can't even say it

I am a Christian Woman in love........ with 13 years of Bible School ...Dear Heavenly Father direct me and please let your Holy Spirit guide my heart.....

I am a Woman born in the United States of America....in love.... with a woman....there I said it out loud and God didn't strike me dead.

I am a Woman in love with a Woman. I am a Christian. I am needing to ask God for guidance..."The Answer is in the Bible"

I am a Christian Woman, born in the United States of America, with Bible College experience....I will research.

(see over 100 hours of research links at the bottom of this blog entry)

I am a Woman born in the United States of America, a right wing Christian who believes that the Almighty God does not condemn a loving monogamous same sex relationship ever...not in the Old Testament, not in the New Testament...ever.

I am a Woman, born in the United States of America in love with a Woman born in the Netherlands. I am not liking what I am hearing the Republican Party say about my life, my relationship, my sweetheart.

I am a Woman, born in the United States, finally understanding and accepting who I am ... who I have always been. It brings a lot of answers....and peace.....and happiness...FINALLY.

I am a Woman born in the United States of America in love with a Woman from Holland with no way to get her here legally.

I am a Woman, born in the United States of America, born again Christian, not so conservative anymore, just longing to be with the love of my life and wonder why so many people are fighting so hard to keep me from this love.

I am a Woman, born in the United States of America visiting Holland. Visiting the United States Embassy in Amsterdam.....telling the truth.....VISA DENIED.... I am an American Woman, born in the United States of America, Daughter of a World War II Vet, Christian, kissing the love of my life good bye for God only knows how long.....

It really is possible to kiss while crying.

 

 

I am a Woman in love with a woman, working to get the Respect for Marriage Bill and the Uniting American Families Act passed....Everyday... until I can say that I don't have to cry while kissing the love of my life goodbye....

 

 

 

 

The Bible Says - Marriage

The Bible Says - Homosexuality

The Favorite Sin of the Conservatives

Does God REALLY Hate Homosexuals?

It is Against My Religion

Can You Justify Discrimination because of Sin?

Ruth and Naomi

Jesus, the Greatest Commandment and Homosexuality

Does God REALLY Hate Homosexuals?

 

 

Monday, July 18, 2011

The Church/World Wrong?

The Earth is Flat

The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church” Ferdinand Magellan

The Earth is the Center of the Universe and the Sun rotates around the Earth Galileo Galilei - believed that the Earth rotated around the Sun. The entire world...all of the experts felt that the Earth was the center of the universe. From Wikipedia:

In February 1616, although he had been cleared of any offence, the Catholic Church nevertheless condemned heliocentrism as "false and contrary to Scripture", and Galileo was warned to abandon his support for it—which he promised to do. When he later defended his views in his most famous work, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems, published in 1632, he was tried by the Inquisition, found "vehemently suspect of heresy", forced to recant, and spent the rest of his life under house arrest.

The Bible says that Homosexuality is an Abomination

What the Bible says is an abomination is the unholy practice and cult ritual of a man depositing his sperm in the body of the High Priest during idol worship. The Bible never condemns a loving, monogamous, same sex relationship.

The Bible Says - Marriage

The Bible Says - Homosexuality

The Favorite Sin of the Conservatives

Does God REALLY Hate Homosexuals?

It is Against My Religion

Can You Justify Discrimination because of Sin?

Ruth and Naomi

Jesus, the Greatest Commandment and Homosexuality

Does God REALLY Hate Homosexuals?

All of the above links are previous entries from my blog. They contain a great deal of research and compelling evidence that The Almighty God does not condemn a monogamous same sex relationship. I would be more than happy to discuss or debate my research in a respectful manner. Please feel free to comment or email.

The Salem Witch Trials

From Wikipedia

The Salem witch trials were a series of hearings before county court trials to prosecute people accused of witchcraft in the counties of Essex, Suffolk, and Middlesex in colonial Massachusetts, between February 1692 and May 1693. Despite being generally known as the Salem witch trials, the preliminary hearings in 1692 were conducted in a variety of towns across the province: Salem Village (now Danvers), Ipswich, Andover and Salem Town.

The best-known trials were conducted by the Court of Oyer and Terminer in 1692 in Salem Town. Over 150 people were arrested and imprisoned, with even more accused but not formally pursued by the authorities. All twenty-six who went to trial before this court were convicted. The four sessions of the Superior Court of Judicature in 1693, held in Salem Village, but also in Ipswich, Boston and Charlestown, produced only three convictions in the thirty-one witchcraft trials it conducted. The two courts convicted twenty-nine people of the capital felony of witchcraft. Nineteen of the accused, fourteen women and five men, were executed by hanging.[1] One man, Giles Corey, refused to enter a plea and was crushed to death under heavy stones in an attempt to force him to do so. At least five more of the accused died in prison.

The episode is one of the most famous cases of mass hysteria, and has been used in political rhetoric and popular literature as a vivid cautionary tale about the dangers of isolationism, religious extremism, false accusations, lapses in due process, and local governmental intrusion on individual liberties

Tuesday, July 12, 2011

The Bible Says - Marriage

Ruth 1:16 & 17

But Ruth replied, "Don't urge me to leave you or to turn back from you. Where you go I will go, and where you stay I will stay. Your people will be my people and your God my God.

Where you die I will die, and there I will be buried. May the LORD deal with me, be it ever so severely, if anything but death separates you and me."

What beautiful words. No where else in the Bible can one find such an intent promise of being faithful until death. No where else in the Bible can one find one so intent on being with the other that they are willing to change religion, location, and most importantly, place of burial. These are intimate words of love, promise and faithfulness.

These verses are often heard at weddings, as a matter of fact, I spoke these very words to my beloved bride on our wedding day on June 14th. These are TRADITIONAL wedding verses.

These words are spoken by a woman (Ruth) to another woman (Naomi)

Another passage in the Bible regarding two people of the same sex having romantic feelings for each other is that of David and Jonathan. I know that people would like to explain it away as the two of them being good friends, but that is not the language that the Bible uses when describing these two men.

I Samuel 18:1-3

1 After David had finished talking with Saul, Jonathan became one in spirit with David, and he loved him as himself.

2 From that day Saul kept David with him and did not let him return home to his family.

3 And Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself.

4 Jonathan took off the robe he was wearing and gave it to David, along with his tunic, and even his sword, his bow and his belt.

If this story had been written about Jonathan and a woman, it would be considered to be one of the sweetest love stories in the Bible. Man meets woman, immediately falls in love and gives her his prized possessions. However, because it is because the King's Son and the Man after God's own heart, they explain it away as the two of them being best friends. They want to look at this a a "brotherly friendship" between these two men. The Bible language describing this relationship does not support this description.

I Samuel 20:16

So Jonathan made a covenant with the house of David, saying, “May the LORD call David’s enemies to account.”

17 And Jonathan had David reaffirm his oath out of love for him, because he loved him as he loved himself.

King Saul also saw this relationship as being more than brotherly love. Jonathan's father, King Saul, mentions this relationship as being sexual.

I Samuel 20:30

Then Saul's anger was kindled against Jonathan, and he said unto him, "Thou son of the perverse rebellious woman, do not I know that thou hast chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion and unto the confusion of thy mother's nakedness?

31 For as long as the son of Jesse liveth upon the ground, thou shalt not be established, nor thy kingdom. Therefore now send and fetch him unto me, for he shall surely die."

32 And Jonathan answered Saul his father and said unto him, "Why shall he be slain? What hath he done?"

33 And Saul cast a javelin at him to smite him, whereby Jonathan knew that it was determined by his father to slay David.

34 So Jonathan arose from the table in fierce anger, and ate no meat the second day of the month; for he was grieved for David, because his father had done him shame.

In this Biblical text, King Saul speaks very strongly and even more significantly to the sexual relationship between David and Jonathan.

Uncovering the nakedness of a family member was a euphemism for incest in the holiness codes of the Old Testament , and Saul would not have used this phrase lightly. The implication is that Jonathan is bringing sexual shame on his family [because if this relationship continued, Saul's line would not be able to continue in royalty because David was to be the King].

From the Book The Children are Free

by Rev. Jeff Miner and John Tyler Connoley

Lastly on David and Jonathan is what David himself says when he learns of Jonathan's death:

II Samuel 1:25 &26

25 "How the mighty have fallen in the midst of the battle!

"Jonathan lies slain on your high places.

26 I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant have you been to me;

your love to me was extraordinary, surpassing the love of women.

In my entire life, I have never heard any man say to his buddy that he loves him more than he loves his wife...not only loves him more, but the loving was sweeter. This goes well beyond two guys being good friends.

"In this story, we have a direct Biblical answer to the question: Can two people of the same sex live in a loving committed relationship with God's favor? The answer is "yes" because Jonathan and David did and the Bible celebrates their relationship."

There is a movie out called "Elena Undone" where an observation is made by one of the characters: "...I mean who really cares who is kissing who..."

Just because two men kissing makes you feel ill, just because the thought of two men having sex is repulsive to you, doesn't mean that everyone finds it grotesque and appalling. By the way, most men don't find lesbians offensive. Actually, they find it (lesbian sex) to be quite appealing although some men would not admit that publicly. So again, I believe that this moral, self righteous judgement being put upon gay folks is less Biblical and more personal.

The great State of New York just passed a Marriage Equality law which will go into effect at the end of this months. Surprisingly, several Republicans voted for the bill to be passed I would like to quote some of their statements regarding as to why they voted for equality for all Americans:

Senator Roy McDonald:

"You get to the point where you evolve in your life where everything isn't black and white, good and bad, and you try to do the right thing,"

"You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, fuck it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing.

"I'm tired of Republican-Democrat politics. They can take the job and shove it. I come from a blue-collar background. I'm trying to do the right thing, and that's where I'm going with this."

Senator James Alesi:

"I believe that if you live in America and you expect equality and freedom for yourself, you should extend it to other people,"

Senator Stephen Saland:

“At one time I thought civil unions afforded the opportunity to provide the ability for same sex couples to attain the status they wanted,” says Saland, who voted against same-sex marriage when a similar bill was defeated in 2009. “When I came to the conclusion that civil unions wouldn’t do it, and if you really believed in fairness and equality and doing the right thing…for me there was only one answer,” Saland says. “It was purely a vote of conscience. I did what I thought was the right thing.”

His thought process evolved through research, discussions with “many, many people on both sides of the issue,” and talks with his wife and children. “I wasn’t surprised by my wife’s support and advocacy for same-sex marriage,” he says. He was, however, struck by a question posed by his kids. “What surprised me was that all of my children, a couple of whom are more conservative than I am, basically said, ‘Why do you have a problem with supporting gay marriage?’” he recalls.

Then we had the two Senators who didn't come out smelling like roses. There was the ever loud Senator Ruben Diaz who has a granddaughter who is a lesbian. The Granddaughter stood by her grandfather until one day he was at a rally against Marriage Equality and one of the speakers, a Rev. Ariel Torres Ortega, said that homosexuals are worthy of death. Granddad Diaz did not speak up to defend his own flesh and blood. This was something that even Erica Diaz was unable to accept. She spoke up against the fact that she was unable to marry in her home state. Her Grandfather says that he will not attend her wedding when she does indeed get married. Ruben Diaz made quite a scene on the Senate floor when he was out of order, spoke too long, and another senator refused to yield the floor. All in all, I was wishing he would sit down because he was making such a fool of himself.

Senator Ball, the media grabbing, attention seeking Senator who hires a film crew to follow him around, used this marriage equality vote to gain a lot of press for himself by saying he was undecided in his vote when all along he knew he was just trying to grab the spotlight. Turns out...he made himself look like the narcissistic, closed minded, prejudiced person that he has always appeared to be in the past.

The Bible does not condemn a loving same sex relationship instead it celebrates them. I urge you to do some studying on your own. The conclusions that you come to might just surprise even you.

I urge Congress to take action and repeal the unconstitutional Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and pass the Uniting American Families Act or the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act soon. Families are being torn apart...families just like yours.